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Hakai
5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by bluealien1 View Post
First off, I really like the new skills in Book 12. DPS is awesome, Charge is nice, etc. However, I am very unhappy with the changes to Shield Taunt. Prior to Book 12 I was convinced by some friends that it wouldn't be too bad, but they were wrong. Shield Taunt is 80% useless now. I used to be able to tank almost completely free of force taunting and now I rely on them way too much. Keeping agro on more then two mobs is just a joke, it doesn't work. Playing a Guardian pre-Book 12 was already not close to the easiest class to be good or even decent at, now it is seriously a nightmare. Why are you putting so much emphasis on Guardian's doing DPS and Champion's tanking? I want to be able to tank correctly. There is no reason that it should be easier to tank in Overpower then it is with Guardian's Threat, and it is. -Tol
Since I don't know what your playstyle is, or how you use your skills I can't really speak to the trouble you're having directly. At the same time I can't agree with your assessment of the new Shield-Taunt. The fact that you're having an easier time tanking in Overpower than you are in Guardian's Threat really baffles me. Care to throw up a video on youtube or the like so perhaps we can see more of why you're running into trouble?
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Originally Posted by Rdarkholme View Post
Traited Vexing Blow is a good AoE threat generator and the new Shield Taunt should be too.
It is.
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Hakai
5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by Showtime87 View Post
It's silly to say that shield taunt is better now. Clearly, it can't be better than when it was guaranteed to grab aggro on everything it hit. I tried it in a group last night and it didn't seem to be of much use. Hunters 10 levels lower than me were peeling off extras. Guardians are definitely worse tanks than they were before the update.
For a group that is working well together it is certainly better. If everyone is concentrating on the Guardian's main target by the time it is dropped if the new shield taunt is used multiple times the Guardian can have a huge lead over all the DPS classes allowing them to really go off as they cycle through the adds.

Previously the Guardian would never be higher than the Minstrel by more than a few points, or a few points higher than someone attacking an off target. They would essentially have to build up a lead all over again, and were definately prone to losing aggro to DPS classes. While I absolutely agree that it is less efficient if you have fellowship members all attacking different targets it is definately not silly to say it is better.

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bluealien1
5 months, 3 weeks ago

First off, I really like the new skills in Book 12. DPS is awesome, Charge is nice, etc. However, I am very unhappy with the changes to Shield Taunt. Prior to Book 12 I was convinced by some friends that it wouldn't be too bad, but they were wrong. Shield Taunt is 80% useless now. I used to be able to tank almost completely free of force taunting and now I rely on them way too much. Keeping agro on more then two mobs is just a joke, it doesn't work. Playing a Guardian pre-Book 12 was already not close to the easiest class to be good or even decent at, now it is seriously a nightmare. Why are you putting so much emphasis on Guardian's doing DPS and Champion's tanking? I want to be able to tank correctly. There is no reason that it should be easier to tank in Overpower then it is with Guardian's Threat, and it is. -Tol